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	Kommentare zu: Palmöl &#038; Palmitinsäure &#8211; fördern Metastasen &#038; Co.	</title>
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		Von: H.C. Fricke		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.C. Fricke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2024 19:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Als Antwort auf &lt;a href=&quot;https://hcfricke.com/2017/05/03/palmoel-palmitinsaeure-foerdern-metastasen-co/#comment-782&quot;&gt;freyadog&lt;/a&gt;.

Danke für den Hinweis, jedoch steht im Volltext der Nature-Studie:

&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In addition, &lt;strong&gt;exposure of cultured OSCC cells to palmitic acid&lt;/strong&gt;, a dietary fatty acid recognized by CD36 (ref. 29), for 2 days also robustly increased the percentage of CD36+ cells (Extended Data Fig. 6e). &lt;strong&gt;Palmitic acid increased the size and frequency of lymph node metastases in a manner dependent on CD36, without affecting primary tumour growth&lt;/strong&gt;. Notably, palmitic even promoted lung metastasis in 10% of mice, something we did not observe in the more than 100 mice inoculated with control SCC-25 tumour cells (Fig. 3b).&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Ich nehme das jetzt nicht weiter auseinander, weil man dazu alle Studien komplett &quot;auseianderpfriemeln&quot; müsste. Der Kommentar im Peat-Forum ist jedoch insofern falsch, weil er was behauptet, was durch den Volltext der Studie klar widerlegt wird.

Grüße,
H.C.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Als Antwort auf <a href="https://hcfricke.com/2017/05/03/palmoel-palmitinsaeure-foerdern-metastasen-co/#comment-782">freyadog</a>.</p>
<p>Danke für den Hinweis, jedoch steht im Volltext der Nature-Studie:</p>
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<blockquote><p>In addition, <strong>exposure of cultured OSCC cells to palmitic acid</strong>, a dietary fatty acid recognized by CD36 (ref. 29), for 2 days also robustly increased the percentage of CD36+ cells (Extended Data Fig. 6e). <strong>Palmitic acid increased the size and frequency of lymph node metastases in a manner dependent on CD36, without affecting primary tumour growth</strong>. Notably, palmitic even promoted lung metastasis in 10% of mice, something we did not observe in the more than 100 mice inoculated with control SCC-25 tumour cells (Fig. 3b).</p></blockquote>
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<p>Ich nehme das jetzt nicht weiter auseinander, weil man dazu alle Studien komplett &#8222;auseianderpfriemeln&#8220; müsste. Der Kommentar im Peat-Forum ist jedoch insofern falsch, weil er was behauptet, was durch den Volltext der Studie klar widerlegt wird.</p>
<p>Grüße,<br />
H.C.</p>
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		Von: freyadog		</title>
		<link>https://hcfricke.com/2017/05/03/palmoel-palmitinsaeure-foerdern-metastasen-co/#comment-782</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2024 18:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ein Kommentar im Ray Peat Forum:
&quot;The study didn&#039;t use palmitic acid, they used something that contained palmitic, but unknown pufa content. Palm oil can be ~10% pufa. Garbage study.&quot;
Ein anderer Kommentar:
&quot;Multiple in-vivo studies have already found palmitic acid to have anti-cancer effects. Here are two&quot;
Titel und Link Studie 1 &quot;Palmitic acid inhibits prostate cancer cell proliferation and metastasis by suppressing the PI3K/Akt pathway - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34653428/ &quot;
Zweiter Link führt zu einem Thread über &quot;Palmitic Acid (palmitate) Dramatically Inhibits Liver Cancer Progression https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/palmitic-acid-palmitate-dramatically-inhibits-liver-cancer-progression.17974/ &quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ein Kommentar im Ray Peat Forum:<br />
&#8222;The study didn&#8217;t use palmitic acid, they used something that contained palmitic, but unknown pufa content. Palm oil can be ~10% pufa. Garbage study.&#8220;<br />
Ein anderer Kommentar:<br />
&#8222;Multiple in-vivo studies have already found palmitic acid to have anti-cancer effects. Here are two&#8220;<br />
Titel und Link Studie 1 &#8222;Palmitic acid inhibits prostate cancer cell proliferation and metastasis by suppressing the PI3K/Akt pathway &#8211; <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34653428/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34653428/</a> &#8220;<br />
Zweiter Link führt zu einem Thread über &#8222;Palmitic Acid (palmitate) Dramatically Inhibits Liver Cancer Progression <a href="https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/palmitic-acid-palmitate-dramatically-inhibits-liver-cancer-progression.17974/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/palmitic-acid-palmitate-dramatically-inhibits-liver-cancer-progression.17974/</a> &#8222;</p>
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